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x_los ([personal profile] x_los) wrote in [community profile] dankodes2021-01-23 01:08 pm

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the States, Odes Of Zheng

Back after the Christmas/New Year break! I'd really like to get through the Book of Odes in the next months, so we can enter into our next Tang or Song offering. I'll try to be more regulated in the poem posts accordingly. 

Some notes:

* Every week I search the poems' English results to see if I can find any scholarship or neat bits and pop the results in Resources. Here is this week's collection.

* I believe the reminder emails have stopped, so I'll seek a new service to run that. 

When the second batch of these is up and running, if you would like not to be on the list and there isn't an unsubscribe option in the email itself, please just respond 'unsubscribe' or something and I'll take you off the reminder roster.

* IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN or have other ideas, please let me know on 
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* If you haven't read it yet, chapter one, on tetrasyllabic shi poetry, in 
How to Read Chinese Poetry is hugely useful for the Book of Odes, imo.

**NEXT BATCH FEB 1.**

Re: 78. 大叔于田 - Da Shu Yu Tian

[personal profile] aeriallon 2021-01-23 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this Da Shu Yu Tian like, Da-ge? His subject matter (Shu) is certainly much like Shu Yu Tian's. Being all about how Shu is admirable and martial, but in more detail. He is one with the tao.
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Re: 78. 大叔于田 - Da Shu Yu Tian

[personal profile] superborb 2021-01-31 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Baidu says "He shoots but seldom" is that the hunt is at an end, so he's not shooting as much.

The fire is to block the escape of the wild animals.
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Re: 78. 大叔于田 - Da Shu Yu Tian

[personal profile] superborb 2021-01-31 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Like Shu Yu Tian, Baidu says ancient scholars believed the "Shu" was Gong Suduan (https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%85%B1%E5%8F%94%E6%AE%B5/1430923), while modern scholars believe it's a general reference to a young hunter.

Baidu says that modern scholars think the narrator is a woman praising her lover. At the time, you'd call the brothers in age order as 'bo', 'zhong', 'shu', 'ji', so this is roughly like calling someone "third brother" in today's vernacular.