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In case you'd like to read through the archive, a masterlist of the poetry we've read so far, in order. These links go to the central dreamwidth post, and the poetry is linked or posted therein. This post will be updated irregularly and condensed when there's a lot to get through.

Shijing/詩經

( 國風 - Lessons from the states )

( 小雅 - Minor odes of the kingdom )

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This is the last book in Lessons from the States! After this, we get into some fairly different material:

Minor odes of the kingdom (about 7 weeks)
Greater odes of the kingdom (3 weeks)
Odes of the temple and the altar (4 weeks)

And then we'll be talking about what we want to do next. But seriously, working through all the Lessons from the States is itself a milestone: one building-block of your Classical Education achieved.

* I found the best option for the weekly reminder emails, via Gmail. The external service options are more involved than our purposes require. Does anyone know anything about how to arrange an Apps Script? Basically all it has to do is tell ten people, on Saturdays, to come and get their juice/poems.

Until someone knows what to do there, I'll send out manual messages weekly. If you'd like to receive these and are not getting them, please let me know.

* If you haven't read it yet, chapter one, on tetrasyllabic shi poetry, in How to Read Chinese Poetry is hugely useful for the Book of Odes, imo.

* IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN or have other ideas, please let me know on this post.
* Every week I search the poems' English results to see if I can find any scholarship or neat bits and pop the results in Resources. Here is this week's collection.

* In case you missed it and are interested, some people on the com are doing a Nirvana in Fire read-along here. Anyone with thoughts is welcome to chime in.

**NEXT BATCH MARCH 22.**

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* I found the best option for the weekly reminder emails, via Gmail. The external service options are more involved than our purposes require. Does anyone know anything about how to arrange an Apps Script? Basically all it has to do is tell ten people, on Saturdays, to come and get their juice/poems.

Until someone knows what to do there, I'll send out manual messages weekly. If you'd like to receive these and are not getting them, please let me know.

* If you haven't read it yet, chapter one, on tetrasyllabic shi poetry, in How to Read Chinese Poetry is hugely useful for the Book of Odes, imo.

* IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN or have other ideas, please let me know on this post.

* Every week I search the poems' English results to see if I can find any scholarship or neat bits and pop the results in Resources. Here is this week's collection.

* In case you missed it and are interested, some people on the com did a Scum Villain read-along here. Anyone with thoughts is welcome to chime in.

* PROGRESS REPORT: With this, we're through the first ten books of the Shi Jing. There will be four more weeks in Lessons from the States, because I'm combining the very short books Gui and Cao. Then we have about seven weeks in Minor Odes of the Kingdom, because the short Baihua will go in with the book before it. Then come three weeks in Greater Odes, then four in Odes of the Temple and the Altar. Then we're entirely done with Shi Jing, and can do Tang or Song or something.

**NEXT BATCH FEB 22.**

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* I know the two titular Weis are confusing; I believe they're different characters both rendered thus in Pinyin.

* I found the best option for the weekly reminder emails, via Gmail. The external service options are more involved than our purposes require. Does anyone know anything about how to arrange an Apps Script? Basically all it has to do is tell ten people, on Saturdays, to come and get their juice/poems.

* If you haven't read it yet, chapter one, on tetrasyllabic shi poetry, in How to Read Chinese Poetry is hugely useful for the Book of Odes, imo.

* IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN or have other ideas, please let me know on this post.

* Every week I search the poems' English results to see if I can find any scholarship or neat bits and pop the results in Resources. Here is this week's collection.

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Some notes:

* Every week I search the poems' English results to see if I can find any scholarship or neat bits and pop the results in Resources. Here is this week's collection.

* I believe the reminder emails have stopped, so I'll seek a new service to run that. I forgot to get to it this week--will make a note.

When the second batch of these is up and running, if you would like not to be on the list and there isn't an unsubscribe option in the email itself, please just respond 'unsubscribe' or something and I'll take you off the reminder roster.

* IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN or have other ideas, please let me know on this post.

* If you haven't read it yet, chapter one, on tetrasyllabic shi poetry, in How to Read Chinese Poetry is hugely useful for the Book of Odes, imo.

**NEXT BATCH FEB 8.**

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Back after the Christmas/New Year break! I'd really like to get through the Book of Odes in the next months, so we can enter into our next Tang or Song offering. I'll try to be more regulated in the poem posts accordingly.

Some notes:

* Every week I search the poems' English results to see if I can find any scholarship or neat bits and pop the results in Resources. Here is this week's collection.

* I believe the reminder emails have stopped, so I'll seek a new service to run that.

When the second batch of these is up and running, if you would like not to be on the list and there isn't an unsubscribe option in the email itself, please just respond 'unsubscribe' or something and I'll take you off the reminder roster.

* IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN or have other ideas, please let me know on this post.

* If you haven't read it yet, chapter one, on tetrasyllabic shi poetry, in How to Read Chinese Poetry is hugely useful for the Book of Odes, imo.

**NEXT BATCH FEB 1.**

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Thanks for a nice crop of responses! Remember to check out the comments, and thank you to those who've contributed Baidu and other language insights that aren't accessible to non-Chinese speakers.

Some notes:

* Two chapters translate in pinyin into Odes of Wei. This is the first one, not the second.

* I'm posting these two chapters together because they're short. We'll drop to one chapter a week if a chapter hits 'about 20' poems rather than 'about 10'.

* Every week I search the poems' English results to see if I can find any scholarship or neat bits and pop the results in Resources. Here is this week's collection.

* The first of our reminder emails should have gone out on Saturday. If you did not get an email but you'd like to be on the list, please let me know!

If you would like not to be on the list and there isn't an unsubscribe option in the email itself, please just respond 'unsubscribe' or something and I'll take you off the reminder roster.

* IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN or have other ideas, please let me know on this post.

* If you haven't read it yet, chapter one, on tetrasyllabic shi poetry, in How to Read Chinese Poetry is hugely useful for the Book of Odes, imo.

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First off, THANK YOU for your email and poem responses this week! Please do check out each others' thoughts in the comments. There's some fun stuff to build off of, and it's less intimidating to offer up some thoughts if we're having a conversation. I'm looking forward to getting into these this evening.

Some notes:

* Two members asked for weekly email reminders on Saturday, so I've figured out how to set that up. If you did NOT get an email yesterday, I haven't got you on the list. If you'd like to be on the list, please let me know!

If you would like *not* to be on the list, let's see whether the first Automated Email on Saturday has an unsubscribe option? If it doesn't, please just respond 'unsubscribe' or something and I'll take you off the reminder.

* One member asked that we do a classic Tang collection right after this one, for something a bit more modern and approachable (she phrased it as the difference between Chaucer and Shakespeare). Unless there are objections, I'm very happy to jump forward in time--we can always circle back to danker parts later if/when we feel like it, and Tang is regarded as some very good shit.

* If you have further ideas, please let me know on this post.

* IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN, please also let me know on this post. I think we're getting to a more stable point, where a handful of additional commenters would be welcome?

* If you haven't read it yet, chapter one, on tetrasyllabic shi poetry, in How to Read Chinese Poetry is hugely useful for the Book of Odes, imo.

Thank you!

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This is a longer chapter than the previous two, and people are still catching up with the last two chapters/acclimating to the format. Thus we'll only do one chapter this week.

I'm going to post this week's poem translations in the body of the discussion to make commenting a bit easier.

Get your 'odes of bae' jokes out early, before the rush.

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Here's the second of the week's poetry discussion posts. Both are currently set to members only, and will be made public once we sort out privacy options for anyone who wants them.

Odes Of Shao And The South:

https://ctext.org/book-of-poetry/odes-of-shao-and-the-south, or http://wengu.tartarie.com/wg/wengu.php?l=Shijing&no=12 (On the page, this string guides you through the Shao poems: nº 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 .)

Discussion Notes:

Please drop all resources, thoughts and questions in the comment stream pertaining to the relevant poem. I'd be especially grateful for context notes on these! The general wiki entry on the Book of Odes/Classic of Poetry is a nice starting point.

General questions and fannish stuff can have their own comment threads. I'll post the next two chapters' posts next Monday, unless we end up feeling that's too soon or something. The posts will remain available to go back and comment on, if you get behind but still want to engage with them.

( Que Chao )

( Cai Fan )

( Cao Chong )

( Cai Ping )

( Gan Tang )

( Xing Lu )

( Gao Yang )

( Yin Qi Lei )

( Piao You Mei )

( Xiao Xing )

( Jiang You Si )

( Ye You Si Jun )

( He Be Nong Yi )

( Zou Yu )

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Odes Of Zhou And The South:

https://ctext.org/book-of-poetry/odes-of-zhou-and-the-south, or http://wengu.tartarie.com/wg/wengu.php?l=Shijing&no=1 (On the page, this string guides you through the Zhou poems: nº 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 .)

The sites have different set-ups for Chinese dual-facing text which are difficult to c/p, and if you'd prefer to access the poem in Chinese I'd suggest using your preferred external site. All English translations come from James Legge (on both sites, because as usual Chinese to English translation options are thin on the ground).

The titles are what the poem is traditionally known as in Chinese.

( Guan Ju )

( Ge Tan )

( Juan Er )

( Jiu Mu )

( Zhong Si )

( Tao Yao )

( Tu Ju )

( Fu Yi )

( Han Guang )

( Ru Fen )

( Lin Zhi Zhi )

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Shijing/詩經

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the States, Odes Of Bin

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the States, Odes Of Gui and Odes of Cao

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the States, Odes Of Chen

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the States, Odes Of Qin

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the States, Odes Of Tang

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the States, Odes Of Wei II

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the States, Odes of Qi

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the States, Odes Of Zheng

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the States, Odes Of Wei and Odes of Wang

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the States, Odes Of Yong

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the states, Odes Of Bei

Shi Jing, The Book of Odes: Lessons from the states, Odes Of Shao And The South

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