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Thanks for a nice crop of responses! Remember to check out the comments, and thank you to those who've contributed Baidu and other language insights that aren't accessible to non-Chinese speakers.

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Re: 55. 淇奧 - Qi Yu

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Re: 55. 淇奧 - Qi Yu

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All from Baidu:

Words that had clear semantic drift: 奥 now is ao4, mysterious/obscure (or like, Olympics or Austria), but in this poem is yu4, where the water edge bends. 匪 is now bandit (or literary "not"), but here is appears with literary talent (legge's translation is elegant and accomplished)

Baidu speculates a few potential people, but also says it's more of a general hope for a noble scholar-official who will be virtuous and good.
Date: 2020-12-11 07:10 pm (UTC)

Re: 55. 淇奧 - Qi Yu

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"As from the knife and the file,
As from the chisel and the polisher!"

Is this bit saying he looks like a statute? (ala the Twin Jades?)

The file bit struck out at me because someone asked if I knew anything about ancient nail files, but this pretty clearly isn't a nail file.
Date: 2020-12-12 02:31 pm (UTC)

Re: 55. 淇奧 - Qi Yu

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Wow the ending is a bit of a twist. Not only is he elegant blah blah blah but also funny

Re: 56. 考槃 - Kao Pan

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Re: 57. 碩人 - Shuo Ren

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Re: 58. 氓 - Mang

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Re: 59. 竹竿 - Zhu Gan

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Re: 60. 芄蘭 - Wan Lan

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Re: 61. 河廣 - He Guang

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Re: 62. 伯兮 - Bo Xi

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Re: 62. 伯兮 - Bo Xi

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Re: 63. 有狐 - You Hu

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Re: 67. 君子陽陽 - Jun Zi Yang Yang

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Re: 68. 揚之水 - Yang Zhi Shui

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Re: 69. 中谷有蓷 - Zhong Gu

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Re: 71. 葛藟 - Ge Lei

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Re: 73. 大車 - Da Che

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Re: 74. 丘中有麻 - Qiu Zhong You Ma

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