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x_los ([personal profile] x_los) wrote in [community profile] dankodes2021-07-13 02:44 am

Nineteen Old Poems: Week 1 of 2

* The 'due date' for this batch is the week of August 18th: I just thought I'd make the post now so that people can trickle in whenever. There were two votes in favour of East Asia Student's translations, so that's what I've gone with. If you prefer or would like to bring another translation into the discussion, please feel free. 

* Chapter Five of
How to Read Chinese Poetry is specifically about the Nineteen Old Poems.

* Every week I search the poems' English results to see if I can find any scholarship or neat bits and pop the results in Resources. Here is this week's collection.

* Remember you can also look at
How to Read Chinese Poetry in Contextthough it doesn't specifically treat this collection.

* IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN or have other ideas, please let me know on
this post.

* I found the best option for the weekly reminder emails, via Gmail. The external service options are more involved than our purposes require. Does anyone know anything about how to arrange an Apps Script? Basically all it has to do is tell ten people, on Saturdays, to come and get their juice/poems.

Until someone knows what to do there, I'll send out manual messages weekly. If you'd like to receive these and are not getting them, please let me know.

Re: 4. 今日良宴會 – Today we hold a splendid feast

[personal profile] ann712 2021-08-16 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes very depressing. I’m reminded of Avon - the only way to obtain wealth is to take it from someone else.
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Re: 4. 今日良宴會 – Today we hold a splendid feast

[personal profile] elviaprose 2021-08-17 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
What is the significance of the unvoiced thoughts to the meaning of this poem? I find it intriguing.
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Re: 4. 今日良宴會 – Today we hold a splendid feast

[personal profile] superborb 2021-08-22 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Baike:

'highest horses' = good horses

'and be the first to seize the roads and fords?': be the first to occupy the most important positions

This time period was full of turmoil and corruption, so the ordinary scholars had no way to return home and were very disillusioned. To relieve their depression, they reflect on the values of life and the final destination.

I guess this is the narrator trying to shake his fellow scholars out of their funk and trying to get them motivated?