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x_los ([personal profile] x_los) wrote in [community profile] dankodes2021-07-13 02:44 am

Nineteen Old Poems: Week 1 of 2

* The 'due date' for this batch is the week of August 18th: I just thought I'd make the post now so that people can trickle in whenever. There were two votes in favour of East Asia Student's translations, so that's what I've gone with. If you prefer or would like to bring another translation into the discussion, please feel free. 

* Chapter Five of
How to Read Chinese Poetry is specifically about the Nineteen Old Poems.

* Every week I search the poems' English results to see if I can find any scholarship or neat bits and pop the results in Resources. Here is this week's collection.

* Remember you can also look at
How to Read Chinese Poetry in Contextthough it doesn't specifically treat this collection.

* IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN or have other ideas, please let me know on
this post.

* I found the best option for the weekly reminder emails, via Gmail. The external service options are more involved than our purposes require. Does anyone know anything about how to arrange an Apps Script? Basically all it has to do is tell ten people, on Saturdays, to come and get their juice/poems.

Until someone knows what to do there, I'll send out manual messages weekly. If you'd like to receive these and are not getting them, please let me know.

Re: 1. 行行重行行 - Marching On and On

(Anonymous) 2021-08-16 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Rejection implies to me this is a break up not homesickness. The last line reads to me like an exhortation to a former lover to look after themselves better than the poet. It’s rather tender.

There’s a sense of unbreachable division created by the mention of barbarian horses and the birds of yue. As if two people realise they need different environments to thrive,

Re: 2. 青青河畔草 - Green, Green, Grass on the Riverbank

(Anonymous) 2021-08-16 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
There’s a suggestion in that last line that the extended pale hand was an invitation to someone to share her lonely bed!

Re: 3. 青青陵上柏 - Green, Green, Cypress on the Mound

(Anonymous) 2021-08-16 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The office party to end all office parties!

Re: 4. 今日良宴會 – Today we hold a splendid feast

[personal profile] ann712 2021-08-16 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes very depressing. I’m reminded of Avon - the only way to obtain wealth is to take it from someone else.

Re: 5. 西北有高樓 - A Tall Tower in the Northwest

[personal profile] ann712 2021-08-16 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I love ‘the pure Shang tone’. Very onomatopoeic. Like those searing notes the violin makes.

It sounds like she’s an unappreciated wife making music from her grief, and the poet is sad that she doesn’t have people around her who appreciate her worth. She’s got the tower but not the lurve.

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