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LAST WEEK OF SHI JING!!

Get your comments in on what we do next here, and I'll put up the poll on Saturday!

* I found the best option for the weekly reminder emails, via Gmail. The external service options are more involved than our purposes require. Does anyone know anything about how to arrange an 
Apps Script? Basically all it has to do is tell ten people, on Saturdays, to come and get their juice/poems.

Until someone knows what to do there, I'll send out manual messages weekly. If you'd like to receive these and are not getting them, please let me know.

* If you haven't read it yet, chapter one, on tetrasyllabic shi poetry, in 
How to Read Chinese Poetry is hugely useful for the Book of Odes, imo. 

* Remember you can also look at 
How to Read Chinese Poetry in Context.

* IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO MIGHT LIKE TO JOIN or have other ideas, please let me know on 
this post.

* Every week I search the poems' English results to see if I can find any scholarship or neat bits and pop the results in Resources. Here is this week's collection.
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From: [personal profile] douqi
The dark king is Qi, ancestor of the Shang Dynasty kings. 'Dark King' translates into 'King Xuan'. His title derives from the story of the Xuan Niao (extracted in comment to the previous poem). Xiang Tu is his grandson.

In the Shi Jing continuing to sound like weird porn, the rank-tokens bit literally translates to (on a contemporary reading anyway) 'received small balls and big balls'.

The other guy was apparently a major minister: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Yin
In dynastic founding stories there seems to be often a lot of focus on the officials/generals who did the founding alongside the actual emperor. So for e.g. Han Dynasty founding stories don't just focus on Liu Bang, but also on Zhang Liang, Han Xin and Xiao He, etc.
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Baike's gloss and vernacular tl makes the omens seem more like, of their good fortune

Tang is the founder of the Shang dynasty. From the vernacular tl, the implication is more that he was born at the right time

The rank-tokens are glossed as some say jade artifacts, small ones two chi, big three chi, some say a homonym for 'law'. The vernacular tl uses jade tablet (ceremonial badge of rank)

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